Cross-dressing, Trapping

Buy some clothes and practise.

I arranged something like that once and decided not to go. My advice is if you're not completely comfortable with something, don't do it. There's no shame in chickening out of these things. Don't worry about having to make excuses to him either, it's your choice and no-one else's.

>>915
thks, u still do cd'ing?

>>916
Yeah, a little bit, don't get much time for it anymore due to circumstances lol.

Just a few things...

It REALLY helps if he is into panties or CDing....i've found that people who are not tend to not be as aroused with me & i'm less so with them. Plus if they are, there is nothing better to break the ice than to have them try on some of your panties and then you play with their cock. Trust me :)

Second thing and MOST IMPORTANTLY, always meet in a public place first and talk for a bit. No better way to flush out a creep.

Best of luck!

If you don't feel right with it, just don't do it. That simple.

>>914

I think I had a guy back out on fucking me lol a little upset.

I used a banana before I got a dildo but I used a condom. That way I could peel it and eat it afterward although the flesh had been squeezed into much by my sphincter.

Don't you waste that banana! Bananas are good for you.

Well, why wouldn't it be safe? The only mega-serious problems you'll have with reckless anal play will either be pain or bleeding from unlubricated entry or a ruptured colon if you penetrate with something really huge really deep. A banana? Naw. If you were using raw meat, then I'd second-guess.

Also, >902 is right, bananas are squishy... plan appropriately.

FUCK NO.

Just do yourself a favor and get either a nice dildo or a starter buttplug. Always use lube as well (Astroglide FTW)

I recommend either Amazon's selection or the site Eden Fantasys as they have terrific user reviews of almost every product.

http://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Wellness-Products/b?ie=UTF8&node=3777371
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My experience is not definitive, but I have not ever had any complications from it. Seems like it kinda start to dissolve after a while. Also to get an unpeeled banana in will require lubrication and a very relaxed ass, otherwise you will squish it all over the place.

I don't think safety is the issue here. I think the problem is choice.

Cut that little black part on the end off or just like soften it out, because it can be pretty hard and jagged and I'd bet can cause micro tearing on your intestinal track. I don't know for sure, I just think I've heard that somewhere, and hey, better safe than sorry.

Also, it'd probably be a good idea to put a condom on it. I mean, you can wash it, but the skin is porous, and you have to think about all the people that may have touched it, what kind of chemicals it came in contact with, etc epsecially since you can pick up things with your intestines a lot easier than you can be ingesting stuff, so even thought it's food quality it might not be "stick up your ass" quality.

I would use a condom.

Well, it depends on how far along you are, I'd say. From how it sounds, you seem to be content on being a girl and you'll most likely be /tsg/ material one day.

I'd suggest start off in /cdg/ until your status "upgrades" to that of a trap; e.g. where people can't tell right away that you're one specific gender. /cdg/ is a good place to begin the journey, IMO.

My bodybuilder friend once told me, "No one ever got big by accident," when I asked him about weight training for strength or size.

I guess whatever you do you will want to avoid building your deltoids so your shoulders don't get even broader but I think going in this direction you will only end up parodying the female figure. I exercise for the martial arts I study so my body is quite lean but still slender at about 70kg, 180cm. But then I'm not really trying to become a trap… just sexy (and healthy).

Stay off the weights and do aerobics. You can use those wrist and ankle weights but nothing more. Aerobics will give you a girly figure. Be careful not to over exercise too. If you lose too much body fat you'll look masculine. You need to keep a little bit of soft on you.

Nice, going to post any pics?

haha, dunno, i'm quite a shy person (like stupidly so), not getting so much stuff to start with...

well i've got my stuff...the cock/balls really do scupper you for the underwear thing dont they?

Although I never plan on trapping myself, I'm also interested in this information.

My current line of thought is to go visit a hair salon in the GLBT corner of town. I still have more growing to do first.

You could also claim to be an emo looking for an androgynous haircut. There are so many of them around, they probably wouldn't even notice.

I know several professional hairdressers and they all have at least 1 or 2 regulars who are trans. They won't judge, so just ask them :)

Do you have a square jaw or rounded jaw? because wavy hair will help with a square jaw. look at female hair sites there are a few that provide examples of what kind of cuts to get with what kind of face you have.
also, are you into the whole scene kid look? bcause that whole movement is filled with androgynous hairstyles...

>>135 eh, i don't dress scene-y at all, and i'm not really into the whole thing tbqh. and my face is definitely more round.

for a rounded face, try layers... it makes my cheecks softer and my chin face look slimmer.

by the way, check out my thread on /cdg/

>>6665

sorry
>>6666

Good luck with that ! ^__^

I'm not sure about actually "growing" your nipples... but you can rather easily increase their sensitivity by taking female breast enhancement pills... which can be purchased just about everywhere. But if you don't want to take pills... teasing and playing with your nipples on a regular schedule can train them to respond in the way you like.

>>555

i´ve seen feminine boys who have pointy small bunns with small nipples, not tiny nipples, but big enough in my point of view, and none of them used any hormones or medicine.

by pinchin and playing with mine, i´ve noticed that my nipples have gotten more sensitive and grown a bit, but its the above example op is probably after. sucktion-cups? pumps. i guess you could use the same kind of nipple-pump females can use

My nipples are pretty prominent, but it happened because I had them pierced. Then had the piercings stretched to take a bigger gauge bar. Other than that I think the little vacuum pump is your best bet.

Massage them. Play with them. Pretend you're milking them. I have no idea what the permanent effects are, but mine get perky and rubbery when I do this.

As an added bonus, it's really easy to get off doing this.

you can order nipple suction cups in different sizes and colors from nipple funwear (google it) and they will become bigger but not
permanently and a lot moar fun

kust an update on the situation, she is very interested in what i'm doing, and said they she would try anything once, and yea it seems that she has no problem with me wearing her stuff, so what the hell am i suposed to do about the wearing moms stuff thing?

Wear her stuff and not your mom's.

Buy your own clothes.

Muscles can never go away. Don't try or you'll permanently damage your heart muscle at the same time. Exercising/jogging only makes you bulky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Uxbv4WOpo

Pilates - the point of these exercises isn't to lose weight. It takes the bulky leg muscles you have from your previous life style and reshapes them for more feminine legs.

Personally I believe a guy can look great in women's clothing even if he's shaped like a guy as long as he's also slender, hairless, and has a pretty face.

>>905
ie. Not all girls have "girly" figures either. I've seen plenty of GGs with bodies shaped just like Rawr's.

One of the keys to success is to (well, once the basics like LHR are out of the way) stop thinking of yourself as a guy trying to look like a girl, but instead, as a girl simply trying to look more attractive. Ask yourself, "what would a GG do in this situation?"

haha fuck me too.

i hate absolutely everything about my body and honestly i dont think even if i had millions of dollars worth of treatments and surgery i'd ever come close to looking good, let alone looking like i WANT to look. hahaha

I have never heard of this.

Or are they just talking about Vaniqa? What I've been led to believe is that it only works for women and TGs who have been on HRT for a good while. It "reboots" hairs to do what your body is telling them to do, but had been growing thicker because of past hormonal conditions.

In the context of transgender hair removal, it seems like a glass house. If you're off hormones for too long, it all comes back. It's better off to just get it all nuked permanently.

Chemotherapy anyone?

It sounds really sketchy. It could work, I guess. What was it called?

OP again, yes it was Vaniqa (or something like that). So I take it that it is estrogen triggered? Otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't work for genetic males (stupid xy chromosomes).

>>879
Only works as long as you use it. stop using it and your back at square one. no such thing as rebooting, people aint computers.

Ok I see what you mean, for genetic males it isn't permanent. You have to use it life long. I guess depending on cost and how long it takes to kick in that might not be bad, but laser sounds better.

>>883
Not permanent on anyone, ever.

My reference: http://www.tsroadmap.com/physical/hair/vaniqa.html

The reasoning of the girl in this article was that her facial hair follicles were "stuck" in a coarse, terminal state from all the past testosterone in her system. After decades & decades of HRT, these hairs do thin very gradually, but this is obviously not good enough. Her reasoning was that Vaniqa would hasten up this process and they would begin doing what her body was telling them to do.

Obviously, if the hormonal conditions in your body lead to terminal hair growth, the effects would be temporary.

So it's more likely for TGs on hormones to experience permanent effects than GGs who have unusually high androgen levels/sensitivities.

Still, the testimony is very shakey, and even if it does work, it's a glass house that would come toppling down if you're off hormones for any length of time.

For some people, Vaniqa doesn't work at all.

>So I take it that it is estrogen triggered? Otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't work for genetic males (stupid xy chromosomes).

Again, if your hormones are fighting it, it won't work.

>no such thing as rebooting, people aint computers.

The female vellus facial hair pattern is a legitimate state for even a male's hair to be in. TGs lucky enough to get on hormones (Kim Petras RAAAWRR!!) before their beard hair grows in never develop any. It's just a matter of coaxing the hairs into that state, then they'll stay there unless hormones are telling them to do otherwise.

The theory is sound. Whether that theory has ANY bearing on reality is another story.

Experiment. Just don't blow too much money on something that's a long shot.

Bumping because autocomplete saged it.

Victoria's Secret packages only have the letters "VS" and the return address on them, that's all. The "VS" letters are in pink, but the company name isn't listed in full anywhere on them.

The best way to get item's shipped to you near anonymously is actually rather simple, find vendors that plainly describe their shipping options as "Discreet Shipping." If an online store includes this option, they'll make it prominent in their FAQ.

Also, depending how old you are, it may not matter whether or not you get the magazines in the mail... god knows when I was in college a couple years ago, I knew several guys who got VS catalogs mailed to them.

obviously they dont want any

There's no hurry. (Well unless you NEED to start mones now or something.)

Take your time to build up the courage. Write a letter if you think it might help. Dropping hints might help, but it might also get them angry at you for not telling. You would know better if this would work.

Find someone who you think might take it the easiest and tell them first. Then ask for their help in telling it to others.

>>846

I'm close to 18 so I feel like it's now or never as I'm almost out of puberty, any words of wisdom on this would be greatly appreciated.

I've written a letter I think it's pretty good and luckily they're very openminded, now it's only a matter of finding the courage to leave it on the table.

It sounds like you actually want it to be now or never... that's a lot of pressure.

I agree with telling a trusted friend/mentor first; that should help give you some perspective on how to hold your own in the following conversation. If you do this first, and still feel like it's "now or never," then it's clear you're looking more for emotional support as a priority, and it wouldn't hurt to emphasize this if/when you tell your family.

Oohhh, that sounds painful.

Trap crotch bulges are hawt. <3

More seriously, try baggy pants (anything not skinny, really), long skirts, or dresses. It should be pretty straightforward to find clothes not tight in between the legs.

Never been a fan of "tucking"-proper, but as far as fashion ideas go, all you have to do is known and understand your body. Don't wear lycra shorts, short pencil skirts, or jeans that are obviously one size too small... Do wear appropriately fitting pants, blouses or shirts that stretch/runch down over your belt-line, layer a bit more, and try for some standard tucking alternatives... such as angling the penis to upper left/right if your panties don't have room in front, or separating the testicles to either side and tucking the phallus farther down in front/between (completely pain free).

So much conflicting evidence. I guess it depends greatly on your own physiology and what kind of regiment you're on.

I hear your testament to dry orgasms, shadowtrap, yet I see all these pictures of perfectly passing, sexy traps cumming huge loads of white syrupy, sperm-packed goodness. (I've also seen the inbetween cases, eg. Sascha whose cum is transparent & sterile.)

Personally, I'm fairly fem as it is without hormones. All I really need is something to soften up this body hair, grow some tits, and maybe move a bit of fat around.

I'm also worried about masculinizing further with age. I'm 23.

Since I'm much too poor to bank but I still want to have kids some day, I'm very interested in knowing if a smaller dosage of somethingorother could suit my needs.

I know I should see a doctor but I expect outright rejection at this point in my life. By the time I'm experienced enough, I worry it will be too late. The biological clock is ticking.

Still the expectation of children from the last male-bodied member of the bloodline interferes greatly with the realization of her self-hood.

It does! A muscle that really changes your profile is the latissimus dorsi(or lat, for short). It's a prominent back muscle, which will effect your appearance, front and side included. It's generally muscles that account for the atypical male v-shape. Look at pics of female bodybuilders with developed back muscles and you will see what I mean. Or conversely, look at pics of men with eating disorders.

>>759
Well I actually like the idea of having kids of my own, and I also like having everything in my body working the way it's supposed to, so it's as much for me as for family.

>>813
I think you're on to something here. Is there any non/low-hormonal way to change this?

I don't mind being sterile. It's not as if Im going to make a father(see: Transamerica). Besides that, what if my mental problems are hereditary? I'd feel like a total piece of shit if they inherited something like that. :p

>>817

Nutritionally, there is stuff you can do. Low-protein, high-carb, hearty amounts of 'good fats'. IE, nuts as opposed to french fries. That will help soften up your body composition. Not as much as it would accompanied by hormones, of course. Avoid heavy lifting as that can actually increase testosterone levels..

OP here, one other thing I was curious about - for personal reasons, I'm not posting pictures, but most people I talk to say I have a feminine face already. Will hormones help with that? I have a bit of a brow ridge that worries me. I understand FFS can fix that, but that's a while away.

I realise bone structure won't change, but will fat redistribution in the face help?

Thanks again!

Allright guys I'm close to 18 so it's pretty much now or never before I'm on the too-late-table, how do I go about telling people I want to start taking HRT?

Please help xx

>>837
'Too late' is a myth. (unless your name is Kim Petras) But yeah going earlier makes things easier/faster. Do you have money of your own? How supportive are your parents/do you expect them to be?

If family / doctor support falls through but you have money, there's always: http://www.inhousepharmacy.com/transgender/transgender.html

If your parents will support your transition, maybe even buy stuff for you, you've got it made. Otherwise, work at getting independent, at least long enough to go through with most of transition on your own.

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>>817

Same here.

Good job. (I'm still working on a strategic way to come out to my dad. Difficult since some of my plans depend on him NOT knowing, or otherwise him accepting it, which WON'T happen.)

Hormones might help a bit with hiding cheek and chinbones. Maybe keeping your hair long would hide your brow ridge a bit, but I dunno. You may be stuck.

>All these years of living in denial god I wish I could start over again.

Don't we all, lol. I'm constantly jealous of Linetrap and all these TGs who managed to transition in their teens. I realize that LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES play a huge role and most of it is beyond our control. For me, money and support were NOT THERE, so pushing it any earlier than I did would have gotten me NOWHERE. Just be glad you're not starting any later.

Also remember all the TGs who transition in their 40s+ but can still stealth.

And I'm a huge moral christfag. If you need any good pro-trans religious arguments, you know where to come.

Swimming

Give Marie Windsor or Billy Blanks a call.

>>751
Yep. A lot of women swim for the same reason.

Careful with swimming, it also builds on your shoulders